**************************************************************************** >C O M P U T E R U N D E R G R O U N D< >D I G E S T< *** Volume 1, Issue #1.06 (April 27, 1990) ** **************************************************************************** MODERATORS: Jim Thomas / Gordon Meyer REPLY TO: TK0JUT2@NIU.bitnet COMPUTER UNDERGROUND DIGEST is an open forum dedicated to sharing information among computerists and to the presentation and debate of diverse views. -------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER: The views represented herein do not necessarily represent the views of the moderators. Contributors assume all responsibility for assuring that articles submitted do not violate copyright protections. -------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************** *** Computer Underground Digest Issue #1.06 / File 2 of 5 *** *************************************************************** Date: Sun, 22 Apr 90 19:31:22 PDT From: "S.S.D.D." To: tk0jut2%niu.bitnet@uicvm.uic.edu Subject: RE: CuD #1.01 Regarding Marks' comments about being on a mailing list triggering harassing action, I have experience showing it happens. Back in about 1970, in my misspent youth, I subscribed to a little-known newsletter called "The Tel Line". This was a phreak magazine that was published in Southern Cal somewhere, and was a precursor to most of the P/hack digests that exist today. Included was the normal blue box/ loop line generalized phreaking stuff that was very active at the time. (BTW: 2600 magazine had a short article on this magazine back in 88 or so). ...anyway, I remember getting an issue in which the editorial talked about the publishers getting heat from Bell Tel, and being asked to turn over their subscription list to the "authorities". I never received another issue, but shortly after that, I (and my parents!!!) began receiving threatening phone calls and letters from Pac Bell, claiming I was involved in red box activity. Knowing what I know now, I should have told those "authorities" where to pack it, but at 14 or so, I was a bit nervous! Anyway at that time I had had no other contacts with the phreak world, and my experience was limited to dialing 100's of 800 numbers and dialing thru local exchanges looking for test numbers, ringbacks etc. This local experimentation was in the Mountain Bell region and had nothing to do with either red boxes or Pac Bell. Anyway, it was obvious that the phone cops had gotten hold of the mailing list. Since this happened back in the neolithic era (pre-PC's! And my parents only bought rotary service... sore fingers!!_) I'm sure that the state of the art of intelligence gathering by "the authorities" has advanced quite a bit, and I am sure that there are a few corporate security subscribers out there taking names. Hell if I care! Give 'em 1000's of names! Keep 'em busy! But be aware that "Big Brother" does indeed listen! /john =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ + END THIS FILE + +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+===+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=  Downloaded From P-80 International Information Systems 304-744-2253 12yrs+