Computer underground Digest Sun Jun 30, 1996 Volume 8 : Issue 49 ISSN 1004-042X Editor: Jim Thomas (cudigest@sun.soci.niu.edu) News Editor: Gordon Meyer (gmeyer@sun.soci.niu.edu) Archivist: Brendan Kehoe Shadow Master: Stanton McCandlish Field Agent Extraordinaire: David Smith Shadow-Archivists: Dan Carosone / Paul Southworth Ralph Sims / Jyrki Kuoppala Ian Dickinson Cu Digest Homepage: http://www.soci.niu.edu/~cudigest CONTENTS, #8.49 (Sun, Jun 30, 1996) File 1--Re: Cu Digest, #8.39, 27 May 96 (re Lance Rose) File 2--Response to CUD #8.48--GAO hacker report: selling wind File 3--Can you say "libel"? File 4--Re: Cu Digest, #8.48, 23 Jun 96 - Crimes and Such File 5--Cyber Angel's response to Wired article File 6--SUN USER GROUP EAST COAST CONFERENCE & EXHIBITION, JUNE, File 7--8th FIRST Conf & Workshop on Computer Security File 8--Cu Digest Header Info (unchanged since 7 Apr, 1996) CuD ADMINISTRATIVE, EDITORIAL, AND SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION ApPEARS IN THE CONCLUDING FILE AT THE END OF EACH ISSUE. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Jun 96 16:53 PDT From: Michael Gersten Subject: File 1--Re: Cu Digest, #8.39, 27 May 96 (re Lance Rose) I disagree with one of the points that Lance Rose makes in his post on Civil Liberties, and the On-Line circus. Lance talks about encryption, as hiding "a message right in someone else's face. It is like sticking a self-incriminating note in a physical capsule that is uncrackably hard and strong, then lobbing the capsule through the window of a police station to sit in the middle of the floor among a bunch of cops, powerless to open it up and figure out how to get the perp." At the same time, he says that you can hide a message better by leaving it in plain text, hidden among the huge mass of other things. Except that today, searching ability is very strong, and only going to get better. Except that the police have shown that they will take an entire computer and search it for anything that they want Except that the goal is for everyone to use routine PGP encryption on all messages that are not for everyone, just as everyone routinly uses envelopes for their mail, and some people use security envolopes that you can't just hold up to a strong light to see what's inside. Except that it's a desire to stand out with an encrypted message, but to be one of the normal flow of encrypted messages. Except that any other form of hiding the data requires setting up some special method, that has to be kept secret. With PGP, you don't have to do anything special, really--the message is (at least with the -a option) identified as a PGP message, and when (not if) PGP is standard on unix and windows-96 (or -97) systems, will be just as easy to read as plain mail. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:48:48 -0700 From: Roland Dobbins Subject: File 2--Response to CUD #8.48--GAO hacker report: selling wind Response to CUD #8.48, File 1--GAO hacker report: selling wind You recently quoted something called the "Crypt Newsletter" on the subject of computer-related yellow journalism & governmental scare-mongering on the threat to national security from "hackers". While I certainly am concerned about the characterization of "hackers" as the lepers of the 1990s, I am very disappointed that CUD would publish such a blatantly partisan, left-wing rant, as news. Do you intend CUD to become a forum for left-wing demagogues? I should hope that you will continue to provide a balanced forum for discussing issues of interest to all of us in the Net community, and that you will in future at least insert a disclaimer before reprinting material of such material. Otherwise, CUD will cease to be a forum for intramural discussion of serious issues, and instead become merely a mirror of the moderators' apparently left-wing political views. What a shame, indeed. I am a conservative, and I would like to point out the your readership that it is a left-wing, liberal Democratic Administration which has foisted the entire Clipper/Capstone/EES thing on us, and which has consistently violated the rights of individuals and groups in their quest to establish the Nanny State (Waco, Ruby Ridge, etc.). In fact, Republicans in the House & Senate have been vociferous in both opposing EES and in watering down the more heinous provisions of Mr. Clinton's so-called "anti-terrorism" legislation. The very sinister Filegate incident, which is far beyond any "enemies list" kept by the Nixon Administration, clearly shows the arrogance of liberals who think that government (i.e., themselves) always know best, and that their good intentions render them above the law. Remember, Chuck Colson went to jail for possessing one (1) FBI "raw" file; the Clinton White House had at least 408! >No one except an obscure lunatic named T. K. Jones in the Reagan administration >really thought that either U.S. generals or their Soviet counterparts would >call down the wrath of 10,000 nuclear warheads. Whoever wrote this must be either extremely stupid or willfully ignorant. Weapons are made to be used, and the strategic arsenals of both the U.S. & the U.S.S.R./Russia, while serving as a deterrent against a general conventional war, are indeed capable of being launched if National Command Authority so decides. All one has to do is look at the Cuban Missile Crisis or the Soviet's panicky launching of Project RYAN during the 1980s to see that there was (and still is, in my opinion) a real danger of unleashing Armageddon. That's why SDI was, and continues to be, as issue of vital import. In closing, I would like to compliment CUD for providing a (generally) balanced and informative resource on public policy issues such as Internet regulation. While it is very easy to criticize from the peanut gallery, I hope that my comments and suggestions are received not as churlish sniping, but as advice from a devoted reader who only wishes to assist in making CUD that much more appealing to us all. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:33:56, -0500 From: MR ROBERT E DALY Subject: File 3--Can you say "libel"? What a great idea! I think I'll submit the names of all my enemies! Hmm, maybe I'll check with my lawyer first about slander and libel. Response to article from Computer Underground Digest which follows: Date--Sun, 16 Jun 1996 12:58:38 -0500 (CDT) From--David Smith Subject--Child Molester Database on the web Great World Internet Services has set up a "child molester" database where Internet users can add records about people who are child molesters. The ISP's philosophy is listed below. There is also a separate disclaimer that information will be purged after 120 years, and that Great World Internet Services does not verify any of the data. There is a procedure for those who wish to dispute being entered into a database. There are expansion plans, too : deadbeat dads, crooked cops, elected official crimes, known drug dealers, etc. The site can be found at http://www.greatworld.com/public >From its creator: Too many times in our twisted society, criminals are treated as victims and victims are treated as inhuman and ignored. When our President, our (In)Justice System, and our legislative bodies fail to provide us with proper protection, then we as citizens must unite in order to protect ourselves. The time for passivity has ended and the time for proactive intervention is upon us. Therefore, as a parent and a citizen, I have made available a database where child molesters can be listed. The difference between this database and the databases of certain states (such as California) are that this database is totally free. (There is no ridiculous $10 fee.) Also, anyone can look up information. In California, the state feels that persons need to be able to prove a need for the information before the information may be released. By golly, I believe that the welfare of our children is right enough to know who these victimizers are and that this information should be made available to everyone in order to protect our families from joining the growing roster of victims. Also, this database doesn't require that those listed first be convicted. If you are a victim and have been abused, then it doesn't require a court of law to validate what you already know. The same applies if you are a parent or a close relative and you have first hand knowledge that someone committed the crime. The idea behind this database is to make people aware of the criminals so that we can protect our families before it is too late. Most states do not list cases involving incest or victimization by a relative or sibling. Feel free to list the victimizers here. If they did it once, they are likely to do it again. Once a victimizer's own children have grown up, they often turn to the children of others. There are advocates of these vicious heartless tyrant criminals who say that once a person who has served their time, they should be left alone. Buddy, I have one thing to say to you. Don't let the proverbial door slap you in the tail on your way off this page. When a criminal victimizes a child, the child is emotionally scarred for life. Nightmares often last throughout the person's entire lfetime. Many times the person is unable to function effectively in a relationship. No one is unable to ever take away what has been done. I personally believe that their should only be one sentence for child molestation--death. In my opinion, no child molester has EVER served his time as long as he still lives. This database will help to remind the people in communities throughout America that certain people are dangerous and should be watched. ----------------------------------------------------- Message for Child Molesters: Before you molest your next victim, think twice. Perhaps your name will be plastered here for all of the world to see. Your mother, your father, your brothers and sisters, friends, the world--will know what kind of a living monster you really are. [Internet Link Exchange] Member of the Internet Link Exchange This site designed, managed, and hosted by Great World Internet Services ------------------------------ From: "David Smith" Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:09:57 +0000 Subject: File 4--Re: Cu Digest, #8.48, 23 Jun 96 - Crimes and Such > DON'T SHOOT THE SENATOR > > Beeson and the ACLU understand these kinds of cases are far bigger > than just one student angry about the slaughter of mountain lions, or > an asshole sitting in the U.S. senate. It's about the entire structure > of the Internet and how quickly Internet service providers will pull > down their pants when the cops come calling. How ready is your own ISP > to just hand over access to all your email when John Law appears at > their door asking for "cooperation" against whatever they are > labelling you: terrorist/child pornographer/anarchist/drug dealer, > etc.? > When John Law has a search warrant, as in this situation, I recommend that such cooperation be full and complete. You had better have a very good reason (and lawyer) before you start willful disobedience of legal orders. That ISPs are willingly "pulling their pants down" for the police is just not true. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 19:43:01 +0000 From: David Smith Subject: File 5--Cyber Angel's response to Wired article Attached is an excerpt from an announcement sent to the Cyber Angels giving Gabriel Hatcher's response to the recent Wired article. ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From-- angels@wavenet.com (CyberAngels Director --Gabriel Hatcher) Subject-- AOL project appeal 5) There is an article about us in Wired magazine's July issue. Don't get excited, it is not very complimentary. Most of the article is spent repeating what hostile critics have written about us, saying things like "they don't understand the global nature of the Internet" (like we are 1100 members in _32_ countries and we don't understand the global nature of the Internet?) or "they don't realize that posts could be forged" (which was one of the _first_ things that happened to _us_ when we started a year ago!); or "they could mess up FBI investigations and be criminally liable themselves" (some of our members are currently _teaching_ federal agents how to download and decode binaries from the Usenet). When will the journalists realize that CyberAngels are _not_ people who have only just bought their first computer (although some of us are), but also include users with 15 years+ Internet experience, programmers and a number of professional law enforcement people. The Wired article is critical of Curtis Sliwa (co-founder with me of the project), since he does not use a computer. Hey guys, that's why _I_ run the project. Does Curtis have a right to an opinion about the Internet, given his lack of hands-on knowledge. Well I am not currently drilling for oil in the antarctic ocean, but I think I have a right to be concerned about the environment. Is Curtis informed? Well I keep him up to date. Wired's journalist says he doesn't understand Curtis and my different opinions, and questions how we can be effective since we disagree on things. Well watch us! Do Curtis and I agree about the solutions to Internet crime? No, not always. In many cases we disagree, but guess what? We don't have a problem living with the fact that we are not Clones of each other. It's called a pluralistic society guys, and it requires tolerance to live in. For those of you who didn't know, CyberAngels is not a revolutionary organization. We believe in and practice tolerance of diverse cultures and beliefs, and since we believe in and practice freedom of speech, we encourage healthy and vigorous debate and discussion, and we can live with disagreement (unlike many of our critics!) CyberAngels is going strong, despite the fact that our members wouldn't agree on everything. What we have in common is a shared Mission statement and an agreed Codes of Conduct. That's enough for me. I don't mind which side of your bread you all butter! ;) ********************************************************* Gabriel Hatcher - CyberAngels Director angels@wavenet.com http://www.proaxis.com/~safetyed/CYBERANGELS/cyberangels01.html mirrored at: http://www.safesurf.com/cyberangels/ "All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good people remain silent and do nothing" (after Edmund Burke) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 06:13:32 -0400 (EDT) From: NOAH Subject: File 6--SUN USER GROUP EAST COAST CONFERENCE & EXHIBITION, JUNE, ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date--Thu, 16 May 1996 14:55:05 -0400 (EDT) From--Rick SUN USER GROUP EAST COAST CONFERENCE and EXHIBITION Monday, June 24 & Tuesday, June 25, 1996 Marriott Copley Place Boston, Massachusetts ********************************************************************** ************* Register below for FREE admission to *************** ************* the biggest Sun Trade Show of the year. *************** ********************************************************************** Since this year's SunWorld has been cancelled, SUG East is now the ONLY major Sun conference of 1996. 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And lastly, if it is possible to advertise the event in any advisories, bulletins or newsletters, please do so, as this would be most appreciated. ######### SPECIAL NOTE SPECIAL NOTE SPECIAL NOTE ######## It is very important that if you have any plans to attend, please register and make your hotel reservations *NOW*. This is very important because of several factors: 1) Hotel occupancy is at all time high for this summer and with the Usenix conference the week before, hotels will be filled. 2) The hotel will only honor the FIRST conference rate of $135/night till June 27, 1996. After this date, the rate will only be provided on a space available basis. The regular non-FIRST rate is $199/night. 3) The price of gas has increased greatly in the California area and travel prices will be going up as the summer travel season starts. People will use hotels more and drive less. 4) Also the price of the conference does go up after July 13, 1996 and that date is quickly approaching. - --------------------------------------------------------------------- **************************************************** For the most up to date and complete information, please see the URL hostsites http://www.first.org/workshops/1996/ - or - http://ciac.llnl.gov/firstconf/ **************************************************** The 8th FIRST Conference and Workshop on Computer Security Incident Handling and Response July 28-31, 1996 The Westin Hotel Santa Clara, California United States ___ _ _ ____ ____ ____ _ _ ____ ____ ____ ____ _ _ ____ ____ | |__| |___ | | | |\ | |___ |___ |__/ |___ |\ | | |___ | | | |___ |___ |__| | \| | |___ | \ |___ | \| |___ |___ The annual FIRST Conference and workshop event is the only event of its kind. 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