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So, I am going to give my loyal readership a view INSIDE the insidious Angel's Lair, where the mighty Derf himself has seen fit to regale his users with his version of the events leading up to various things. Once his say is through, I will give a quick synopsis of the actual calendar of events, and y'all can decide for yourselves which of us is the holder of the sacred truth. I have stripped away such nonsense as post headers, user I.D.'s and post dates. Anyone interested in such trivia is offered the opportunity to call Angel's Lair and see for themselves. I have left all of Derf's numerous & copious spelling errors intact, so that you might get the "flavor" of Derf in all its glory. And so begins the "Terrible Lie"... -------------------------------------------------------------------- Kaos Kidd (aka Derfimus Maximus, the One True Derf, etc., etc..) As for the Tal stuff, HL: Long, LONG time ago, back when the lair was less then 4 months old, Tal, ( then called NOUROMANCER ) started telling little stories about AB to his buddies. His buddies ( One M. Raider, Shrub, Wizz of od, and 2 others ), shaired in his decietful tailes of lust and slander, with our own AB as the 'porn' queen of all thies wild orgies that we had at the Lair. The first one being User Meeting #1 ( the Sysop's Gathering ), then progressed into User Meeting #2 ( un-offically called The Users Strile out ). During the course of UM #2, one un-luckie user dialed a 1-900 number, and got into some serious toruble, but, you see, he was put up to it by one of the 'buddies' ( see list above ). As time progressed, so did the Lies, name calling, pranks, ect. Deals were made and then broken, lied about, kinda like an 'all but fist-fight' kinda of war. Hostitilies commed down when the warring fractions decided to 'boy-cote' the other's bbs's. The end results: The Lair and Final Frontier are the ONLY 2 out of the 5 BBS that still have any trafic worth talking about. 2 of the 3 'coalition' bbs were conficated by the FEDS, ( by reasons that I'm not at liberty to add for a few more years ), leaving one very lonly bbs that handles the major 'ELETE' bbs. To this date, only nominal and civial telephone conversation can be held, and there are still 3 persons having yet to make retrubition for their wrong dooning, and there for, as sysop II, I will make sure that until such retrubition, there names are dirty words, and that their handles and personalities shall NOT be seen here, to help protect our users from the un-lawful persuites thies children have. Okay, did this make any head-way into explanining what is/was going on? I take NOT credit for the traffic on this bbs. It's location and it's set-up is what makes it a better bbs, not to add that there is only 3 commie bbs in the area left. NOTE: NEBBS was commie Villa-straylight was commie Sages Hut was commie NEBBS > IBM = DIED SHRUB > --- = DIED V-SL > conficated > IBM > networed ( some name ) there are 2 other bbs that were also commie, but are dead as a result of the combined efforts of the users that stand for the moral majority. Blag, all I'm doing here is clearing some stuff up, that's all. I take credit for one thing, and one thing only, and that was the demise of one BBS, and the facts behind this are still classified. Kaos Kidd ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Now then. Derf seems to think that the world began the day his BBS was set up. Thats his first mistake. His first error: I began calling myself Tal Meta BEFORE "Fred Meeting 1", when I took down Tessier-Ashpool and put up Villa Straylight "underground" so to speak. The second error is in his dating of events. "Fred Meeting 1" took place several months BEFORE Angel's Lair was put up. Next was the very critical fact that it was not I who started telling stories about Angel Baby, it was several dozen other people. he seems to have foregotten the fact that for several months I had very strained relationships with the rest of my friends simply because I DEFENDED Angel from such stories. The person who made the "1-900" call was not then, nor was he ever any friend of mine.(In fact that same user went on to have a sexual relationship with his best friend's mother... He was, and remains today, a very sick pup.). Derf goes on to tell us that "2 of the 3 coalition bbs's were confiscated". Bullshit. First off, there never was any "coalition". Secondly, my BBS was the only one to get "confiscated", and if Derf thinks he had anything to do with that, he's more deluded than even *I* give him credit for being. The actual claneder of events runs something like this: Apr 90: The world first hears from Derf. May 90: User Meeting 1 (Fred Meeting #1) Jun 90: User Meeting 2 (The FIRST Derf Meeting - Angel Baby shows her face!) Jun 90: All my friends are on Angel's case, and I'm her sole defender. Aug 90: I start seeing sides of Angel *I* don't care for. Sep 90: Angel's Lair is born! (Have they foregotten who PAID for their DMBBS registration? It was me. Angel and I have a falling out shortly after. Nov 90: I stop calling Angel's Lair for numerous reasons not germaine to the subject at hand. May 91: Villa Straylight (etc.) is confiscated by US Sprint & local cops. Derf is noticably absent from these proceedings. You can make your own decisions. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* *-* Phoenix Modernz Inc. :908/830-TANJ *-* *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* *-* Modern Textfiles Inc. 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